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by Jemoh66
Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:54 am
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler
Replies: 28
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Re: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler

Jonathan: “Stative” as I understand it, refers to a type of stasis, the opposite of dynamic. Then I look at your example of “grow”, both examples are of change, dynamism, the opposite of stasis. (I looked up the definition of “stative” in a dictionary, and it specifically mentioned “grow” as an exa...
by Jemoh66
Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:33 am
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler
Replies: 28
Views: 703

Re: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler

With regards to 'passive'; no, stative is not just another term for passive, like in the following example: War erupted in 1939. 'Erupted' is a dynamic usage of the passive ; it is not 'stative' as it indicates action or change; in the above example the 'change' was going from non-war, to war. I ag...
by Jemoh66
Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:11 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler
Replies: 28
Views: 703

Re: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler

interesting, jonathan.. if we take a root like mem waw taw the verb "die" I guess mem waw taw and yud chaf lamed, are always stative 'cos in english one could always replace "he died" with he is/was/became dead. likewise with able.. So stative verbs seem to be a type of passive ...
by Jemoh66
Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:44 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler
Replies: 28
Views: 703

Re: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler

Karl, The same verb can be both dynamic and stative, depending on the context. Take the verb grow . Sentence 1: I grew tomatoes and peppers this season. Sentence 2: He grew by leaps and bounds this year. S1 is dynamic, while S2 is stative. Take the verb play . S3 He played Bach's Chaconne tonight. S...
by Jemoh66
Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:44 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler
Replies: 28
Views: 703

Re: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler

John McKinnon: Ralph, I did a search on Academia.edu for articles on Hebrews statives. The search produced three results. For me the most relevant was what appears to be a grad paper: https://www.academia.edu/25801396/The_State_Of_The_Stative_Qatal_A_Study_Of_Form_And_Function_In_Biblical_Hebrew . ...
by Jemoh66
Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:26 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler
Replies: 28
Views: 703

Re: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler

Karl, you wrote: Other than the verb “to be”, does any language have stative verbs? I'll start here, because this seems to be the root of your misunderstanding, although I suspect you have an agenda, which is you just don't want to entertain the notion of stative verbs in BH. Here are a just a few s...
by Jemoh66
Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:29 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler
Replies: 28
Views: 703

Re: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler

Stative is a type of Actionality, describing a class of activity inherent in a verb. Semantically, a verb denoting state, i.e., a stative verb, does not indicate change but does not exclude such a possibility (Actionality (Aktionsart): Pre-Modern Hebrew). These verbs describe a situation that requir...
by Jemoh66
Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:36 am
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler
Replies: 28
Views: 703

Re: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler

Ralph, you wrote So if I understand you correctly, first you say there are two groups, then you think there are three groups of statives No, you read my comments too quickly. There are 3 groups of vowel patterns, but only two categories of stativeness. So in trying to solve the issue I think we have...
by Jemoh66
Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:23 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler
Replies: 28
Views: 703

Re: Identifying stative verbs - maybe a difference between Basics of biblical hebrew/BBH and Groves Wheeler

There's several things at play here. (My thoughts only) 1. Stative verbs can be grouped into two groups depending on whether they are referring to an actual state viz. "to BE heavy..." or to the process that leads to a state viz. "to BECOME great" or just say "she grew in st...
by Jemoh66
Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:35 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Hebrew bible versification
Replies: 7
Views: 326

Re: Hebrew bible versification

kwrandolph wrote:Even in Hebrew, there are some variations.

For example, in Exodus 20, the versification of the Aleppo Codex differs from that of Leningradensis. I don’t know where else they may differ, but I noticed this one.

Karl W. Randolph.


Does the Aleppo versification line up with the LXX/Vulgate?

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