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by Jemoh66
Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:35 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Hebrew bible versification
Replies: 7
Views: 98

Re: Hebrew bible versification

kwrandolph wrote:Even in Hebrew, there are some variations.

For example, in Exodus 20, the versification of the Aleppo Codex differs from that of Leningradensis. I don’t know where else they may differ, but I noticed this one.

Karl W. Randolph.


Does the Aleppo versification line up with the LXX/Vulgate?
by Jemoh66
Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:11 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: translation of Daniel 9:26
Replies: 20
Views: 567

Re: translation of Daniel 9:26

Jonathan, Thanks for the explanation, I much better understand now the traditional arguments on the dagesh. It all falls now in place: יִדֹּר , for instance, has a dagesh placed in the /d/ by the NAQDANIYM of Tiberias to bring to the reading יד-דוֹר to accommodate the traditionally heard lengthenin...
by Jemoh66
Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: translation of Daniel 9:26
Replies: 20
Views: 567

Re: translation of Daniel 9:26

Isaac Fried wrote:Jonathan,

I find what you are saying very interesting, yet there is still one question nagging me: how do you know that the dagesh in the zayin of מִזֶּ֣רַע is a gemination marker?

Isaac Fried, Boston University

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by Jemoh66
Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: translation of Daniel 9:26
Replies: 20
Views: 567

Re: translation of Daniel 9:26

Kirk Lowery wrote:Jonathan,

Could you give us a more complete URL for that article? I looked at the site and it wasn't clear where I could find it...

Thanks!

Kirk


Sure,

Here it is:
http://jewishstudies.rutgers.edu/docman/rendsburg/582-ehll-phonology-bh/file
by Jemoh66
Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:51 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: translation of Daniel 9:26
Replies: 20
Views: 567

Re: translation of Daniel 9:26

Jonathan, I am greatly interested in what you are saying: 3. מִזֶּ֣רַע — gemination of the zayin due to assimilation of the /n/ of /min/ Yet it is not clear to me what triggers the gemination due to the assimilation. Is the inner dot, the dagesh, placed in the zayin of מִזֶּ֣רַע to remind the reade...
by Jemoh66
Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: translation of Daniel 9:26
Replies: 20
Views: 567

Re: translation of Daniel 9:26

Bring this post back to linguistics, some observation upon reading the passage: 1 בִּשְׁנַ֣ת אַחַ֗ת לְדָרְיָ֛וֶשׁ בֶּן־ אֲחַשְׁוֵרֹ֖ושׁ מִזֶּ֣רַע מָדָ֑י אֲשֶׁ֣ר הָמְלַ֔ךְ עַ֖ל מַלְכ֥וּת כַּשְׂדִּֽים׃ 2 בִּשְׁנַ֤ת אַחַת֙ לְמָלְכֹ֔ו אֲנִי֙ דָּֽנִיֵּ֔אל בִּינֹ֖תִי בַּסְּפָרִ֑ים מִסְפַּ֣ר הַשָּׁנִ֗ים אֲ...
by Jemoh66
Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:49 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Noun derivations from roots—patterns
Replies: 4
Views: 332

Re: Noun derivations from roots—patterns

Don’t confuse artifact of translation with how it’s used within Biblical Hebrew. I don't see how what I have written suggests I am leaning on translation. In fact, I am translating based on the Hebrew to point out that these are not gerunds. That's all. I think you are confusing the matter here. I ...
by Jemoh66
Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:55 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Translating Amos 9:12
Replies: 4
Views: 323

Re: Translating Amos 9:12

You're correct. In the Hebrew the subject of the verb נקרא is שמי.
Literally, on whom my name is called.
by Jemoh66
Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Isa 59:20 compared to Rom 11:26
Replies: 28
Views: 1649

Re: Isa 59:20 compared to Rom 11:26

He's quite consistent across the entire verse with the yod's . Isaiah Scroll - yods across 59-20.png So I don't see this scribe as having a vav on the end of the word. What I see is ולשבי , not ולשבו . I think someone else noticed this as well earlier in the thread: that he has el tzion , not l'tzio...
by Jemoh66
Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Isa 59:20 compared to Rom 11:26
Replies: 28
Views: 1649

Re: Isa 59:20 compared to Rom 11:26

just ahead you can clearly make out the difference between his yod's and his vav's. Red circles for yod's and green ones for vav's.
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