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by kwrandolph
Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:11 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Psalm 139:20 Masoretic text
Replies: 18
Views: 177

Re: Psalm 139:20 Masoretic text

Karl, If you have time, maybe you could put your own translations for the different versions. I can't imagine how you will translate יאמרך. Kenneth: If you really want to understand verse 20, you need to take it in context with verse 19. In all versions I checked, verse 19 is the same: אם-תקטל אלוה...
by kwrandolph
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Psalm 139:20 Masoretic text
Replies: 18
Views: 177

Re: Psalm 139:20 Masoretic text

In "The Jerusalem Bible" by Koren Publishing and in the Soncino Press "The Psalms", Psalm 139:20 says ירמוך and נשוא. In every other book I have seen, it says יאמרך and נשא. Which is the usual Masoretic text? Or are both? Kenneth Greifer Kenneth: You have opened a can of worms. ...
by kwrandolph
Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:53 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: ‎ בַּחֲמִשָּׁ֖ה (Gen. 18:28 et al)
Replies: 6
Views: 110

Re: ‎ בַּחֲמִשָּׁ֖ה (Gen. 18:28 et al)

Does the numeral ‎ בַּחֲמִשָּׁ֖ה (Gen. 18:28, Ex 16:1, Lev 23:34, etc) have an article? If not, how would it be written if it did? Joseph: The rule is that the particle prefixes ב and ל can have definite or indefinite meanings depending on their contexts. In an unpointed text, there’s no difference...
by kwrandolph
Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:06 am
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 293

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

Hal: When you wrote this, I thought you meant that Shur is the next to the last letter of the alphabet, and so if the Hebrews wanted to indicate a letter like a "bull" specifically, then they would have just used the letter Shur. I assumed that you knew enough Hebrew to recognize what I me...
by kwrandolph
Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:52 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 293

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

Hal: You have caught at least part of the problem. What you are running into is a presupposition, absent of any evidence, that the alphabet was derived from Egyptian hieroglyphics. It could be the other way around. A second presupposition is that the writing known as Proto-Sinaitic was scratched by ...
by kwrandolph
Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:57 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 293

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

Hal: … What is curious to me about this is that the first letter that they chose to start their alphabet was also a picture of the animal that they associated with God, the bull. This statement is false. I don’t know how else to say it, but that when something is false, it’s false. There’s no eviden...
by kwrandolph
Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:02 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 293

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

Hal: You are like a bulldog, you just won’t let go. The Egyptians called their alphabet "God's words", IIRC, and the Mayans had a similar name for their script. I think that something similar might be true for other scripts, the idea that writing was itself somehow sacred. With God being a...
by kwrandolph
Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:09 am
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 293

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

Hal: Even if the Israelites were not interested in worshiping any bull god, weren't the Canaanites or Phoenicians, from whom the Israelites took their early alphabet? Moses wrote in the latter half of the 15th century BC. There’s evidence in his writing that he had documents dated centuries earlier....
by kwrandolph
Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:28 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 293

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

Dear Hal: This next question considers several questions, including inaccuracies. First of all, the pronunciation of “Yahweh” is a modern invention, by a German about two centuries ago. While we don’t know for certain what was the original pronunciation, there are indications that is was more like “...
by kwrandolph
Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:21 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 293

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

Do you see a relationship between the word "El" and either the meaning of its component letters or of the letter Aleph? The short answer: “No.” The long answer: The meaning of אלף when referring to animals is “domesticated animal” of which the most important in an ancient farming society ...

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