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by PakoBckuu
Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:59 am
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 332

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

It's curious - the etymology of Aleph (herd) appears to come from a word meaning to teach. Yet how could it then morph into the word for chief (aluph)? Maybe originally it meant bull, which would make sense because a bull can be a kind of chief of domesticated animals? It would be neat to go back in...
by PakoBckuu
Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:45 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 332

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

Hal: The male of a cow is פר but when a raging, dangerous and powerful bull is mentioned, it’s שור. That’s the next to the last letter of the alphabet. In contrast, an אלף is a domesticated animal, not dangerous at all. Good point. Karl, When you wrote this, I thought you meant that Shur is the nex...
by PakoBckuu
Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:17 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 332

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

a cattle goad was usually just a sharpened stick, used to poke the cattle (sort of like spurs for horsemen) without a crook. How a shepherd’s crook got connected with the verb “to learn” or the noun “learning” or “student (learner)” can only be speculated at this time. Karl, Do you think that the H...
by PakoBckuu
Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:23 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 332

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

Karl, I have repeatedly found claims connecting Lamad and staff. The letter Lamad does look like an upside down staff (Shebet), but that's as far as I've gotten to successfully associate the two. I also found the following attempt to connect Lamad and staff, but it doesn't look reliable to me. Let m...
by PakoBckuu
Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:07 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 332

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

kwrandolph wrote:Hal:

The male of a cow is פר but when a raging, dangerous and powerful bull is mentioned, it’s שור. That’s the next to the last letter of the alphabet. In contrast, an אלף is a domesticated animal, not dangerous at all.

Good point.
by PakoBckuu
Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:06 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 332

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

Hal: You are like a bulldog, you just won’t let go. The Egyptians called their alphabet "God's words", IIRC, and the Mayans had a similar name for their script. I think that something similar might be true for other scripts, the idea that writing was itself somehow sacred. With God being ...
by PakoBckuu
Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:03 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 332

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

The Egyptians called their alphabet "God's words", IIRC, and the Mayans had a similar name for their script. I think that something similar might be true for other scripts, the idea that writing was itself somehow sacred. With God being associated with the bull, and a bull's skull being th...
by PakoBckuu
Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:40 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 332

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

Karl, Even if the Israelites were not interested in worshiping any bull god, weren't the Canaanites or Phoenicians, from whom the Israelites took their early alphabet? In that case, could the Canaanites and Phoenicians have associated the Aleph ox symbol with El, who was depicted as a bull sometimes...
by PakoBckuu
Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:17 pm
Forum: Beginners' Forum
Topic: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?
Replies: 19
Views: 332

Re: Is the Semites' letter Aleph, meaning "ox", related to their god "El"?

I found your answer helpful, especially when you say "The meaning of אלף when referring to animals is “domesticated animal” of which the most important in an ancient farming society is a פר bull or פרה cow." Your reply that the Hebrews took the worship of the calf from Egyptian mythology r...

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