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by kwrandolph
Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:30 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ps 8:3 (MT): Because of the wailing?
Replies: 16
Views: 2456

Re: Ps 8:3 (MT): Because of the wailing?

I opened up my New Testament for my daily reading, and read Matthew 21:16. After having seen this question, I realized that I had to stop and look deeper into it. So here goes— The first thing I did was to check the dictionary for the entry עז and found four entries: one for the meaning of refuge, o...
by kwrandolph
Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:45 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: וְעַל כְּנַף שִׁקּוּצִים in Daniel 9:27c
Replies: 10
Views: 2189

Re: וְעַל כְּנַף שִׁקּוּצִים in Daniel 9:27c

Dear Leonard: It appears that you think you know more Biblical Hebrew than do I, so I don’t see any reason for me to continue in this discussion. Both of us agree that this refers to the Roman legions and their standards. I see it as referring to the time they surrounded Jerusalem and set up their s...
by kwrandolph
Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:04 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: וְעַל כְּנַף שִׁקּוּצִים in Daniel 9:27c
Replies: 10
Views: 2189

Re: וְעַל כְּנַף שִׁקּוּצִים in Daniel 9:27c

Leonard: You are making two mistakes: 1) Just because a certain pattern shows up in other languages does not mean that the same pattern is found in Biblical Hebrew. Such are your references to Greek and English. 2) You are à priori claiming that a certain meaning is a term’s “literal meaning” when y...
by kwrandolph
Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:04 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Is this the way to study grammar?
Replies: 58
Views: 10265

Re: Is this the way to study grammar?

Ruth: Ruth Mathys wrote:… Ruth Mathys wrote: a speaker can get all kinds of interesting pragmatic effects by using the aspect that isn't 'normal' for a given verb. E.g. the Coca Cola slogan "I'm loving it" which goes against the usual rule that experiencer verbs like love can't take the pr...
by kwrandolph
Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:08 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Is this the way to study grammar?
Replies: 58
Views: 10265

Re: Is this the way to study grammar?

… Ruth Mathys wrote: a speaker can get all kinds of interesting pragmatic effects by using the aspect that isn't 'normal' for a given verb. E.g. the Coca Cola slogan "I'm loving it" which goes against the usual rule that experiencer verbs like love can't take the progressive form. Who say...
by kwrandolph
Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Is this the way to study grammar?
Replies: 58
Views: 10265

Re: Is this the way to study grammar?

Dear Ruth: I am with Rolf here on the concept of aspect. IMHO at the very heart is its subjectivity . At least in my native tongue, What is your native tongue? Mine is American English, as used in the Midwest U.S. What’s yours? a speaker can get all kinds of interesting pragmatic effects by using th...
by kwrandolph
Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:24 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Is this the way to study grammar?
Replies: 58
Views: 10265

Re: Is this the way to study grammar?

Dear Karl, You have not fully grasped what scholars say about aspect. That is true. My knowledge of “aspect” dates from decades ago, from works written in the 1960s and earlier. At that time, “aspect” was an objective measurement of time, and that only. As a non-professional linguist, I haven’t fol...
by kwrandolph
Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:59 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: וְעַל כְּנַף שִׁקּוּצִים in Daniel 9:27c
Replies: 10
Views: 2189

Re: וְעַל כְּנַף שִׁקּוּצִים in Daniel 9:27c

Leonard: Quote Therefore, to insist that it mean “bird wing” doesn’t fit its uses in Tanakh. Unquote LJ: Please read my post again. For the life of me I can't understand how such a short and simple post as mine could have been so grossly misunderstood. Nowhere did I "insist" that כְּנַף in...
by kwrandolph
Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:44 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: וְעַל כְּנַף שִׁקּוּצִים in Daniel 9:27c
Replies: 10
Views: 2189

Re: וְעַל כְּנַף שִׁקּוּצִים in Daniel 9:27c

Leonard: As readers of my posts on the above topic on the old forum will know, I have advocated understanding שִׁקּוּצִים in Daniel 9:27c as idolatrous objects of worship This part of the verse there’s no disagreement. and כְּנַף as a part of such objects situated on its edge and called its "wi...
by kwrandolph
Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:19 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Is this the way to study grammar?
Replies: 58
Views: 10265

Re: Is this the way to study grammar?

Dear Rolf: Dear Karl, Because you view aspect as an objective property and I view it as a subjective one, from a linguistic viewpoint, we speak two different languages. So, we cannot have a meaningful discussion of aspect, because a meaningful discussion requires an agreement regarding the basics. E...

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