ducky wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:34 pm
Construct states are not definite by default.
Thanks.. do you have any examples of that? (besides Psalm 81:6
שְׂפַת לֹא יָדַעְתִּי אֶשְׁמָע (a language {that/אשר} I didn't know).
ducky wrote:
If the בראשית starts with Sheva, it is hard not to see it as part of a construction.
Of course. For example in an earlier post I mentioned. בבית דוד buh-vait david.
ducky wrote:
The question is how.
do you mean the question is how can beraishit be a construct?
actually the question in this thread is how might beraishit be absolute(Given the shwa on the bet)
You mention two possibilities for beraishit being construct. The idea that Bara is part of the construct. Or, alternatively, the idea that beraishit has an implied noun(missing word) with it.
You give two examples of implied noun(missing word).
בראשית הימים (does that occur in tanach? I don't see it with this search of beraishit)
http://sparks.simania.co.il/bibleSearch ... ery=בראשית
And you mention
Isa 46:10
מראשית עד אחרית
With the word Beraishit, does it have an absolute form? Is the absolute form the same as the construct form?
Do you have any example of a noun that has a different construct form from absolute form.. And then for that noun do you have an example where it is in construct with a "missing word"?
ducky wrote:
In your other post, you wrote about ראשית comes in a definite state.
but I think that when it comes to fruits, ראשית בכורים for example, the ראשית itself took over the whole combination. and therefore, it acts as an absolute word, and in that case, it should come in a definite state. This happened with this meaning because we can guess this was a very popular combination of words up until it was enough to say only the first part of it that it would be understood with the full meaning.
I agree.
Note that when I say "implied noun", that's what you mean by missing word (at least in this case).
And I guess there's a question of whether the word "construct" applies when you have an implied noun?
Does the one noun that appears, appear in the absolute form, or the construct form?
On a related note.
Do you look at all constructs as involving a "missing word"?
For example a construct of beraishit [מתי/when] bara there's that connecting word / "particle", missing.
When it comes to two nouns. Beit David There's kind of a missing connecting word there Shel. Though Biblical Hebrew didn't have a word "Shel".
So I suppose to define what construct is it'd have to be either when you have 2 or more nouns one after the other, in a chain. Or, when you have a noun and a verb and a missing connecting word. Or a noun on its own but that has an implied noun "following" it.