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Who can lie down on the clouds of heaven?

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:41 pm
by Saboi
The strangest quote in the King James is "Who can stay the bottles of heaven?" in Job 38:37
when it actually reads 'Who can lie down on the clouds of heaven' , נבל/νεφέλῃ.

Job 38:7 (KJV - all the sons of God)
כל־בני אלהים
μεγάλῃ πάντες ἄγγελοί μου (Septuagint)

Where did the Septuagint get 'μεγάλῃ' and no mention of 'Sons' , this shows the both
verses are in error, reading כל as γάλ as μεγάλῃ and בני as πάντες and the original reading
of אלהים is ἡρώων 'Heroes' hence a more refined reading of ' All the mighty heroes shouted for joy'

Job 38:28
τίς ἐστιν ματήρ(מטר) καὶ πατήρ(פטר)
Who is the Mother and Father who have begotten dew

The word Father is פטר (peter) see the phrase "opens(διανοίγω) the womb" (Exodus 13:2)
and the author of Luke quotes this in Luke 2:23 then in 24, he mentions Pigeons
and then in 25, Simon is introduced, who is named 'Simon Peter son of Jonah (διανοίγω)
and the name Cepheus means 'opening' (of flowers/womb) כפתר, כף(Bulb), Simon is שׁוּם (Garlic)
from χῶμα synonym of Caepa (Onion) and Setania (σητάνιον) (Onion) origin of Semo Sangus, Simon Magus, Salus Semonia and Dia Semonia or Simoni Deo Sanctio and Satan, who lives underground like an Onion.

Isaiah 48:19 ' offspring of thy bowels (ἔκγονα τῆς κοιλίας)
* γονάω > John, Jonah, Jonathan (Διόγονος)

Re: Who can lie down on the clouds of heaven?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:24 am
by Isaac Fried
Personal question: who wants to lie down on the clouds of heaven?

Isaac Fried, Boston University