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Saboi
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Mycenaean Hebrew

Postby Saboi » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:35 am

There is many similarities between Mycenaean and Hebrew.

In Mycenaean, DI־DO means "Give" and resembles תת

DIDO־MI תת־י "I Give"
DIDO־SI תת־תה "You Give"
DIDO־ME תת־נו "We Give"

In the New Testament, Thomas had two other names, Didymus and Nathaniel "Given by God"
and identical with θεόδοτος, ἀνάθημα and δεδομένος a translation of נתינים in 1 Chronicles 9:2.
* διδυμάων : תאומים/ תומם "Twice-Given"

In Mycenaean, the verb KA־UE means "Burn"
-כוה, כויה , מכוה ,תכוה

MA־RE "Wool"
-צמר , עמר

This is the LINEAR A ideogram for Oil
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LINEAR B
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In Greek, the word is Ελαιον and ELEIFA in Etruscan and in Hebrew, חלב (ἐλαίου > ἐλυ > חלב)
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חלב/ἀλείφω - Cooking Oil/Fat
חלב חטה/ἄλφιτον - wheat groats

χρυσός - זהב חרוץ ( χρυσίου > σιοϝ/זהב/דהב)
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Ϝοἶνος - יין , גפן
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Ξύλον - צלמ, צאלים
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αιΓ - עז
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Βατον, Βοᾷς - כבש
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Re: Mycenaean Hebrew

Postby Saboi » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:54 am

The cultures in the 2nd millennia BCE were interconnected through trade-routes and that is how language was spread.
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PIE Language is fiction and the Wikipedia as a disclaimer on it's page that reads "No direct evidence of PIE remains"
and thus unreliable and Hebrew is the most European language there is and according too Greek Mythology, Europa
was born in Phoenicia, namesake for Europe and the earliest cities in Europe were founded by Phoenician, such as
CADIZ, City in Spain.

The Spanish conjunction for "And" is the single letter Y that came from Image.

Deuteronomy 29:3
The great the temptations
ה מסות ה גדלת
τοὺς πειρασμοὺς τοὺς μεγάλους
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Re: Mycenaean Hebrew

Postby Saboi » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:49 am

Deuteronomy 29:3
The great the temptations
ה מסות ה גדלת
τοὺς πειρασμοὺς τοὺς μεγάλους
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Re: Mycenaean Hebrew

Postby Saboi » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:10 am

μεγάλον : גדלים
μεγάλους : גדלת
μεγάλη : הגדלה
( Gen 10:12)
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Re: Mycenaean Hebrew

Postby Isaac Fried » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:30 am

Indeed, Cadiz is possibly קדיש or קֶדֶש

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Re: Mycenaean Hebrew

Postby Saboi » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:47 am

The Hebrew word for the number two is one letter ש (written with a terminal N)

ש = δύο, τω

The number 8 is 2 from 10. ( τω απο δεκα)

δεκά τω > εκά τω > ὀκτώ

שמנה < ש מנ עה "Eight"
εις εκά - תשע < תשעה "Nine"

The Hebrew words for FOUR and SEVEN are connected for they bear similar prefixes
perhaps it's because Seven is the opposite of Four.

10_9_8_7
1_2_3_4

ארבע
שבע

Notice the length of the word FOUR in Greek compared too the rest of the numbers.
εις
δύο
τρίς
τέσσαρες
πέντε
ἕξ
ἑπτά
ὀκτώ
ἐννέα
δέκα

τέσσ αρες - αρε τέσσ - אר ע
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Re: Mycenaean Hebrew

Postby Saboi » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:00 am

II = S
V = BO
ש בע "Eight" IIV

I = A
V = BO
א בע "Four" IV

Solved.
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Re: Mycenaean Hebrew

Postby Isaac Fried » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:09 am

ארבע is רב, 'many', and שבע is שפע, 'plenty'.

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Re: Mycenaean Hebrew

Postby talmid56 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:09 am

Just because PIE is theoretical doesn't make it fictional. All language comes from somewhere. IE (Indo-European) is not fictional. I did graduate work in Romance languages (philology) working with Latin, Spanish, French, and Portuguese. All of these are IE. Hebrew is NOT European! Even modern Hebrew (Israeli), despite its great debt to European languages both in grammatical structure (verb tense system) and vocabulary borrowed from English, French, German, Latin, and other European languages, is not European. It is still considered a Semitic language, and linguists (real linguists) know this. This is not fiction, not theory. It is fact. It remains a fact that Biblical Hebrew is not related to Greek or to any other European language whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. It is related to Phoenician (Punic) and Ugaritic, yes. But these are all Semitic languages, not European ones. Now, it is believed, probably correctly, that the Philistines have Mycenaean roots. If so, then they would have probably spoken a form of Greek natively. About the remains of their language the Encyclopaedia Britannica says:

There are no documents in the Philistine language, which was probably replaced by Canaanite, Aramaic, and, later, Greek.


"Philistine People", https://www.britannica.com/topic/Philistine-people

But Philistines are not Hebrews. And there is no such language as Mycenaean Hebrew, never has been. It's is just as fictional as Joseph Smith's "Reformed Egyptian".

You did give us some nice graphics though. I liked the coin pictures with the grapes. :D
Dewayne Dulaney
דואיין דוליני

כִּ֤י שֶׁ֨מֶשׁ׀ וּמָגֵן֮ יְהוָ֪ה אֱלֹ֫הִ֥ים חֵ֣ן וְ֭כָבוֹד יִתֵּ֣ן יְהוָ֑ה לֹ֥א יִמְנַע־ט֝֗וֹב לַֽהֹלְכִ֥ים בְּתָמִֽים׃
--(E 84:11) 84:12 תהלים

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Re: Mycenaean Hebrew

Postby Saboi » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:39 pm

Phoenician was widely spoken in Western Europe.
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Cádiz is regarded by many as the oldest continuously inhabited city in Western Europe

Cadiz
- Ciudad "city, large town"
- κτίσις , κτίζω " of a city, found, build, foundation
- חדש
- City
- Civitus, Civis,
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