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Saboi
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Malachi 3

Postby Saboi » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:50 pm

Malachi 3:1 ( rough translation)
Behold i discharge my messenger
and prepare her way before my (thee?)
And straightaway go to his temple of Adonis
Who you seek
And the messenger of the will whom you desire
Behold come and say, "Yhwh - Battle-array"


פנה־דרך (Malachi 3:1) *Feminine
פנו־דרך (Isaiah 40:3) * Masculine

Gospel of Mark merges Malachi 3:1 and Isaiah 40:3 and omits and moves פנה־דרך
and changes μου (י) to σου (ך), else the original had a -ך.

הנני שלח מלאכי ופנה־דרך לפני ( MT)
ἰδοὺ ἐγὼ ἐξαποστέλλω τὸν ἄγγελόν μου καὶ ἐπιβλέψεται ὁδὸν πρὸ προσώπου μου (LXX)
Ἰδού ἐγὼ ἀποστέλλω τὸν ἄγγελόν μου πρὸ προσώπου σου ( Mark 1:2)

The last two words of Mark 1:2 " ἔμπροσθέν σου" is a translation of "לפניך "
in Isaiah 45:1, 2.

לרד־לפניו - ἐπακοῦσαι ἔμπροσθεν "hearken before him"
Isaiah 45:2 - ἔμπροσθέν σου : לפניך ( DDS reads לפניכה )
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Re: Malachi 3

Postby Saboi » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:37 pm

The word היכל does not appear in the Torah, first appearance in 1 Samuel 3:3.

The default transliteration of ה is ο and thus היכ is οικ
as in οἰκῶ which was originally written ϝοικω hence ϝικ/ בית

ביתאל : היכל
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Re: Malachi 3

Postby Saboi » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:59 pm

Malachi (the name) in the Greek version is translated into ἀγγέλου 'messenger, envoy' (noun sg masc gen)
and the word appears in 3:1

Malachi 1:1 - Malachi (מלאכי)
Malachi 3:1 - Behold, I will send my messenger (הנני שלח מלאכי) ... "Behold, I will send Malachi"
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Re: Malachi 3

Postby Saboi » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:53 am

The Book that is quoted first in the Gospel of Mark is Malachi (namesake)

Mark 1:10 - περιστερὰν (Feminine)
Mark 1:11 - φωνὴ (Feminine)
* And there came her voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my only-Son, in whom I am well pleased.

In Genesis 22:2, Isaac is referred too as a "Only Son" יחידך/ἀγαπητόν and yet Abraham had other sons
but he was the only son of Sarah.

יחיד is feminine and the root is יחד/ἰῆς from εἷς/אחד

εἷς, ἕεις, μία, ἕν , μίη, ἑνός, μιᾶς, ἑνός, ἰῆς. ἰῇ , μηδὲ , οὐδέ

φωνὴ is the prefix of Περσεφόνη "Persephone" , the alternative mother of Dionysus, also called Kore. Π/κ.

ענה = φωνὴ

כור עני (Isa 48:10)
כורש ענה - Περσεφόνη, Περσεύς
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Re: Malachi 3

Postby Saboi » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:22 am

Malachi 3:4 "Judea & Jerusalem"
יהודה ו ירושלם
Ιουδα καὶ Ιερουσαλημ

Ιουδα - Ιου δα , Ιου γᾶ

δᾶ - Doric for γῆ, γᾶ "Land, Earth"

Herodotus 1.1.3 (Jews in Egypt)
Phoenicians came to Argos and kidnapped IO (Ἰοῦν ) daughter of Inachus (Ἰνάχου) and sailed her to Egypt.

Ἰνάχου: > Ἰάχου > Ἰακώβ > יַעֲקֹב

Αργολίδα
Ἀργολίς
Άργος
Αρκαδίᾳ
Αρφαδ
Αρφαξαδ
'אור כשד
ארפכשד
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Re: Malachi 3

Postby Saboi » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:52 am

Are Judea & Jerusalem separate locations rather then a location in a location , " Judea & Jerusalem" .

Judges 1:8 - Judah had fought against Jerusalem,

2 Samuel 5:5
- In Hebron he reigned over Judah seven years and six months
- In Jerusalem he reigned thirty and three years over all Israel and Judah.

2 Kings 21:1 - Elders of Judah and of Jerusalem.
23:2 -Men of Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem
24:20 - it came to pass in Jerusalem and Judah

1 Chronicle 6:15 - The LORD carried away Judah and Jerusalem

2 Chronicles 2:17- Men that are with me in Judah and in Jerusalem,
24:9 - made a proclamation through Judah and Jerusalem

Ezra 9:9 - give us a wall in Judah and in Jerusalem.
Nehemiah 7:6 - and came again to Jerusalem and to Judah
Isaiah 1:1 - Judah and Jerusalem
5:3 - inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah
Jeremiah 27:21 - king of Judah and of Jerusalem;
Joel 3:6 - The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem
Zechariah 1:19 - These are the horns which have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem
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