1 Kings 10:22 - Carthage & Monkeys

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Saboi

Re: 1 Kings 10:22 - Carthage & Monkeys

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So prior to Jews settling in Canaan, they were illiterate, they had no language, no original homeland, you pretty much admitting that the Ancient Jews were Aliens, the term "Jew" is rarely used in the Torah, the main people are the Phoenicians.

Jesus never existed, the character is a mythology primarily based on Elisha & Elijah, this is why Malachi, the last Book of the Old Testament quotes the coming of Elijah , this is why Mark paraphrases Malachi 3 and the story is spartan in Origin (1 Macabees 12)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thespis

The 12 sons of Jacob is a repetitive motif and found in Greek mythology.
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Re: 1 Kings 10:22 - Carthage & Monkeys

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No one but you claimed the Jews were illiterate and had no language prior to settling in Canaan. Probably they spoke Aramaic or Akkadian before Abraham migrated. Once they adopted Hebrew there, they continued to speak it from then on. As for the original homeland, we know where it was, Ur in Chaldea.

For those interested in facts, the "Jesus was a myth" claim is itself a myth, a fantasy. Here are two ancient, non-Christian sources who say otherwise. (There are more ancient sources who back up Jesus' historicity, but this is sufficient for the open-minded to start with.)

Josephus, Antiquities Section 18: And there arose about this time Jesus, a wise man, if indeed we should call him a man; for he was a doer of marvelous deeds, a teacher of men who receive the truth with pleasure”. (Emp. added)

Ibid., Section 20: “a man named James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ, and certain others”. (Emp. added)

Tacitus, Annals 15:44: [the Roman emperor Nero] “punished with every refinement the notoriously depraved Christians (as they were popularly called) … their originator, Christ, had been executed in Tiberius’ reign by the governor of Judea, Pontius Pilatus.” (Annals 15:44, emp. added).

Eric Lyons, “Can We Prove Jesus Was a Real Person?”, http://www.apologeticspress.org/APConte ... rticle=876
Dewayne Dulaney
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כִּ֤י שֶׁ֨מֶשׁ׀ וּמָגֵן֮ יְהוָ֪ה אֱלֹ֫הִ֥ים חֵ֣ן וְ֭כָבוֹד יִתֵּ֣ן יְהוָ֑ה לֹ֥א יִמְנַע־ט֝֗וֹב לַֽהֹלְכִ֥ים בְּתָמִֽים׃
--(E 84:11) 84:12 תהלים
Saboi

Re: 1 Kings 10:22 - Carthage & Monkeys

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Tacitus mentions CHREST.

χρηστὸς - 'useful, good of its kind, serviceable, good with the hands'
- חרש טוב (χρηστοῦ)

This epithet is commonly given too merchant sailors, the primary role of ancient Phoenician Jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithridates_Chrestus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates_Chrestus

Josephus mentions dozens of characters known as Jesus and the manuscripts of Josephus are late and came out the
Vatican', who know how much damage they have done to antiquity.

They were no Christians at the time of Nero and all the persecutions are entirely fictitious.

NT = Historical Fictional

Suet. Cl. 25:5
He(Claudius) banished from Rome all the Jews, who were continually making disturbances at the instigation of one Chrestus.

Act 18:2
And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his
wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome) and came unto them.

John 3:1 ( Nicodemus of Pontus-Bithynia)
There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus(of Bethany), a ruler of the Jews:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicomedes_IV_of_Bithynia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bithynia_and_Pontus

Matthew 2:22 ( Archelaus of Pontus)
But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archelaus_(general)
Mithridates obeyed the order, but he put an army at the service of Socrates, surnamed Chrestus, the brother of Nicomedes, king of Bithynia ... [11] The Romans decided to restore Nicomedes and Ariobarzanes at the same time, each to his own kingdom, and sent thither for this purpose an embassy, of which Manius Aquilius was the chief, and ordered Lucius Cassius, who was in charge of the Asiatic country around Pergamus
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Re: 1 Kings 10:22 - Carthage & Monkeys

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Well, you can continue to reject facts if you want. I'm done replying to your posts. Have a nice life.
Dewayne Dulaney
דואיין דוליני

Blog: https://letancientvoicesspeak.wordpress.com/

כִּ֤י שֶׁ֨מֶשׁ׀ וּמָגֵן֮ יְהוָ֪ה אֱלֹ֫הִ֥ים חֵ֣ן וְ֭כָבוֹד יִתֵּ֣ן יְהוָ֑ה לֹ֥א יִמְנַע־ט֝֗וֹב לַֽהֹלְכִ֥ים בְּתָמִֽים׃
--(E 84:11) 84:12 תהלים
Saboi

Re: 1 Kings 10:22 - Carthage & Monkeys

Post by Saboi »

talmid56 wrote:Well, you can continue to reject facts if you want. I'm done replying to your posts. Have a nice life.
There is a major difference between Facts and theology, 3rd world USA education system don't distinguish them and you an apologetic, trying to defend a religion that worships a dead Jew nailed to a piece wood and trying to convince people such an event actually happened in real history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology
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