Job 40:15-8

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Saboi
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Re: Job 40:15-8

Postby Saboi » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:05 am

זנב
- στύπος 'Stump, Stem'
- στιβάς (סוף) 'bed of straws. rushes or leaves'
- Τυφώς (סופה) - Typhoon , Whirlwind

סוף means 'Reed' and the lexicon mistakenly gives an Egyptian origin, but it is the same as the verb
that means 'End' (Amos 3:15) and זנב can also describe the end or a rush (Isaiah 9:14) and thus they are described as tail-ends.

סוף is στιβάς 'bed of straw, rushes, or leaves'

Job 40:21
קנה - κάννα 'reed'
צאלים - στόλον ' stump of the tail'

בצה
- βάτος 'bramble, blackberry, on that treads '
- βούτομον 'a flowing rush'
- στιβάς ' spread as bedding, treading, rime, hoar frost'
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Re: Job 40:15-8

Postby Isaac Fried » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:46 am

1. The root ערב is related to רפה, ‘limp, sag, droop’.
2. there are internal indications that Job describes the volcanic regions of East Africa

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Re: Job 40:15-8

Postby Saboi » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:16 am

If Job is describing the volcanic regions of East Africa then its in a Carthaginian context and ערב is another word for West (Psalm 103:12).

Hesperides (Ἑσπερίδες) also called Atlantides (Ἀτλαντίδων)
"The Hesperides tend a blissful garden in a far western corner of the world, located near the Atlas mountains in North Africa at the edge of the encircling Oceanus, the world-ocean."

Since Hebrew tends to reverse Prefixes and Suffixes, the word Ἑσπερίδες (אשפרד) becomes Paradise(פרדאש)
and παραδείσῳ is the Septuagint name for Eden.
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Re: Job 40:15-8

Postby Saboi » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:49 am

The whereabouts of Job is unknown.

Job 1:1 - עוץ - Σκυθία? (Scythia)

-Gen 10:23-
Aram - Ἀρμενία
Uz- Σκυθία?
Hul - Κολχίς
Gether - Ἰστρίη?
Mash - Μόσχοι

עציון־גבר - Scythian Harbor
1Kings 22:48 - Jehoshaphat made ships of Carthage to go to Ophir where there is Gold.

אופר - Aurum 'Gold'
פז - Φᾶσις 'River Phasis, the boundary of Europe and Asia, land of Gold
בוז - Φᾶσις?

I do need to investigate if the Phoenician had colonies around the Black Sea.
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Re: Job 40:15-8

Postby Isaac Fried » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:50 am

סוף is like סוב, the point of turning back, the high point of the road. A turn rises like an U, while this — is flat, thin and low.
סף SAP, related to צף, ‘float’, as in סַף הַשַּׁעַר of Ezekiel 40:6, is the swelling by the door, the threshold. Also a tall cup, a ספל SEPEL, as in Zechariah 12:2, and so is the tall סוּף.
זנב is, indeed, related to סב and סף. Also to סעף, סנף, צנף.

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Re: Job 40:15-8

Postby Saboi » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:13 am

סף
- σκύφος "Cup, Can"
- σκάφας "trough, tub, basin
- σκάφος "hull of a ship
- σκαπτός "Dig, delve, to dig the ground"
- σκάπτω "Staff"
- σκαφίς "Bowl, a small boat, canoe'
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Re: Job 40:15-8

Postby Isaac Fried » Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:35 am

A good scoop!

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Re: Job 40:15-8

Postby Saboi » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:18 am

I have solved the etymology of Elephant, from Μέγα βοῦς "Big Ox".

Ox - Bos, βοῦς, βόσκημα, βῆμα, בים , במה, בהמה

(A) μέγᾶ βος → μέγᾶ δος → μέγᾶ δολ → מגדלגדל
(B) μέγᾶ βος → έγᾶ βος → έλᾶ βος → ἐλέφας

μεγαλέων = עליון = ὑπερίων = עבריון (Synonyms)
μέγας → μέγαδ → μαδ → מאד

These match the Ancient Egyptian " m-k-tỉy-r , m-g-ꜣ-dy-r , m-ky-dy-l-t and m-k-tỉ-r," that are various renderings of Migdol
thereby revealing the Biblical name of Elephantine.

Ezekiel 29:10 ( מגדל סונה )
The tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia.

Herodotus 2:30
Watchposts at Elephantine facing Ethiopia
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Re: Job 40:15-8

Postby Isaac Fried » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:47 pm

Isn't an elephant an elevant?

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Re: Job 40:15-8

Postby Isaac Fried » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:56 pm

The Hebrew root גדל has in it the letter ל L for 'elevate'.

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