In Jonah 2:(3)4 we read
כל משבריך וגליך עליי עברו
where משבר MI$BAR = MI-$BAR is a manifestation of the restless sea. But what is it? the NIV translates it literally as 'breaker', but the KJV translates it as 'billow', implying a מצבר MICBAR, 'swell, accumulation'.
Also related to CABAR and $ABAR is צואר CAWAR, 'neck', the short cumulus connecting the head to the body, on which the head is free to move.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
The equivalence of the roots שבר $BR and צבר CBR
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Isaac Fried
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Re: The equivalence of the roots שבר $BR and צבר CBR
In Gen. 41:49 we read
ויצבר יוסף בר כחול הים הרבה מאד עד כי חדל לספר כי אין מספר
KJV: "And Joseph gathered corn as the sand of the sea, very much, until he left numbering; for it was without number"
The root ספר SPR which is a variant of ספר, צפר, שפר, תפר is by itself related to צבר and דבר CBR and DBR, 'speak, produce a string of words'. So it is in English: a teller tells amounts, a number is the name of a of quantity, and to count is to recount and announce the numbers.
Calculus is from calcium.
So also in German: zählen = count, erzählen = tell.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
ויצבר יוסף בר כחול הים הרבה מאד עד כי חדל לספר כי אין מספר
KJV: "And Joseph gathered corn as the sand of the sea, very much, until he left numbering; for it was without number"
The root ספר SPR which is a variant of ספר, צפר, שפר, תפר is by itself related to צבר and דבר CBR and DBR, 'speak, produce a string of words'. So it is in English: a teller tells amounts, a number is the name of a of quantity, and to count is to recount and announce the numbers.
Calculus is from calcium.
So also in German: zählen = count, erzählen = tell.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
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Mark Lightman
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Re: The equivalence of the roots שבר $BR and צבר CBR
Hi, Isaac. This connection between ספר and דבר passes the smell test. It is consistent with the principles enumerated in ASEHL and it provides a Hebrew-only insight into the meaning of both words. Furthermore, I think learning your principles will help Hebrew learners pick up vocab faster by connecting the unfamiliar with the familiar. Well done and תודה רבה .Isaac Fried wrote: The root ספר SPR which is a variant of ספר, צפר, שפר, תפר is by itself related to צבר and דבר CBR and DBR, 'speak, produce a string of words'.
Mark Lightman
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Isaac Fried
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Re: The equivalence of the roots שבר $BR and צבר CBR
The related root צפר is fruitful and of interest.
We have from this root the ציפור CIPOR, 'bird' of Gen. 7:14, and the צפיר CAPIYR, 'goat', of Dan. 8:5, both possibly from ציבור CIYBUR, 'flock, herd'.
The act צפר CAPAR of Jud. 7:3 is possibly 'throng'.
In Isaiah 28:5 we read
לעטרת צבי ולצפירת תפארה
KJV: "be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty"
NIV: "will be a glorious crown, a beautiful wreath"
suggesting that צפירה CPIYR-AH is a צבירה CBIYR-AH, an elaborate assemblage upon the head.
In present-day usage צפירה CPIYR-AH (from Arabic?) is 'honk, sound of the siren' as in צפירת אזעקה, צפירת ארגעה
The צפורן CIPOREN, 'finger nail' of Deut. 21:12, appears to me to be a צבורן CIBOREN, the hard horn-like protective cover accumulated at the tip of the finger.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
We have from this root the ציפור CIPOR, 'bird' of Gen. 7:14, and the צפיר CAPIYR, 'goat', of Dan. 8:5, both possibly from ציבור CIYBUR, 'flock, herd'.
The act צפר CAPAR of Jud. 7:3 is possibly 'throng'.
In Isaiah 28:5 we read
לעטרת צבי ולצפירת תפארה
KJV: "be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty"
NIV: "will be a glorious crown, a beautiful wreath"
suggesting that צפירה CPIYR-AH is a צבירה CBIYR-AH, an elaborate assemblage upon the head.
In present-day usage צפירה CPIYR-AH (from Arabic?) is 'honk, sound of the siren' as in צפירת אזעקה, צפירת ארגעה
The צפורן CIPOREN, 'finger nail' of Deut. 21:12, appears to me to be a צבורן CIBOREN, the hard horn-like protective cover accumulated at the tip of the finger.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
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Mark Lightman
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Re: The equivalence of the roots שבר $BR and צבר CBR
Hi, Isaac,
Applying your principle (ASEHL p. 19) that a contrast is made in Hebrew through the replacement of the fundamental concept עז- זע with the fundamental concept ער- רע, I propose שׁבת as a מצב צבירה opposite to צבר.
Applying your principle (ASEHL p. 19) that a contrast is made in Hebrew through the replacement of the fundamental concept עז- זע with the fundamental concept ער- רע, I propose שׁבת as a מצב צבירה opposite to צבר.
Mark Lightman
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Isaac Fried
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Re: The equivalence of the roots שבר $BR and צבר CBR
The filler letter ע eyin may stand for a missing צ tsadi. In Job 21:10 we read
שורו עבר ולא יגעל
KJV: "Their bull gendereth, and faileth not"
It appears to me that עיבר IBAR, 'impregnate, inseminate, fertilize' is actually ציבר CIBAR. In post-biblical Hebrew עובר UBAR, actually צובר CUBAR, is 'embryo', the fetus aggregated, צבור CABUR, in the womb.
The act געל GA'AL is apparently 'spill, discharge, emit, exude, expel, vomit', as in Lev. 26:30
וגעלה נפשי אתכם
KJV: "and my soul shall abhor you"
Isaac Fried, Boston University
שורו עבר ולא יגעל
KJV: "Their bull gendereth, and faileth not"
It appears to me that עיבר IBAR, 'impregnate, inseminate, fertilize' is actually ציבר CIBAR. In post-biblical Hebrew עובר UBAR, actually צובר CUBAR, is 'embryo', the fetus aggregated, צבור CABUR, in the womb.
The act געל GA'AL is apparently 'spill, discharge, emit, exude, expel, vomit', as in Lev. 26:30
וגעלה נפשי אתכם
KJV: "and my soul shall abhor you"
Isaac Fried, Boston University