Dear Karl,
I consider the Masoretic text as data: results of the work of certain scribes around 900 AD.
It is a curious combination of materials with vast temporal distances between their origins. And the most fascinating is that the vowels are so much younger than the consonants.
I am not a Hebrew scholar myself, although I have spent a full year reading 50 chapters in 1&2 Samuel, with a Gesenius, a grammar, some commentaries and a computer.
So I am not "critical" towards these sources, but I appreciate that there are inconsistencies there, and at all levels in the history of these texts.
People in the Amsterdam group try to use clues in language structure and use for more precise dating of certain books and chapters, and there the database helps. For that type of research the pointing is indeed as good as irrelevant.
My role is to model all that data in ways that others can make use of it, and combine and recombine it with other relevant data.
Best,
Dirk Roorda
Biblical Hebrew vocabulary
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Re: Biblical Hebrew vocabulary
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I was asking questions of you that are properly answered by the “others” for whom you prepare your models.
All the best, Karl W. Randolph.
Thank you for clarifying your role.dirkroorda wrote:I am not a Hebrew scholar myself, … My role is to model all that data in ways that others can make use of it, and combine and recombine it with other relevant data.
Best,
Dirk Roorda
I was asking questions of you that are properly answered by the “others” for whom you prepare your models.
All the best, Karl W. Randolph.
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Re: Biblical Hebrew vocabulary
If anyone is interested, Mechon Mamre has an online version of the traditional Hebrew text without vowels:
http://mechon-mamre.org/i/t/x/x0.htm
They also have a תיקון קוראים that places the Masoretic vowels and tone marks on the word when you move your mouse over it. This is available for the Torah and the book of Esther:
https://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/cp/cp0.htm
http://mechon-mamre.org/i/t/x/x0.htm
They also have a תיקון קוראים that places the Masoretic vowels and tone marks on the word when you move your mouse over it. This is available for the Torah and the book of Esther:
https://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/cp/cp0.htm
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Re: Biblical Hebrew vocabulary
I'm sure I'm being stupid, but I can't find a link to an actual file here, just the code for generating one... is the actual file available?dirkroorda wrote:Well, I just did it. Follow this, and you see a link to a vocab list, with frequencies and glosses. Sorted.
https://github.com/ETCBC/lingo/blob/mas ... ocab.ipynb
Even if it does have some issues, as per the discussion above, just having a list of any quality would be an enormous help!
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Re: Biblical Hebrew vocabulary
Strong's Concordance was created in 1890, as a vocabulary of the bible. There is an online version, here:
http://www.eliyah.com/cgi-bin/strongs.c ... index=3559
Additionally, a mechanical translation, or word-by-word translation of the bible is also online, here:
http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/mt/translation1.html
Translate.google.com has every hebrew word from the bible, but many words translate differently. It might not be fully reliable.
More Info on Strong's concordance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong%27s_Concordance
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I count 40k words in exodus and genesis. 8500 Distinct words. Most frequent words are:
item Count
את 1293
אל 653
אשר 608
יהוה 479
על 479
כי 421
ואת 368
כל 344
סויואמר 336
לוא 283
מושה 268
בני 233
יסראל 202
לו 196
מיצריים 188
אלוהים 187
פרעוה 179
הארץ 169
ויואמר 167
יעקוב 147
יוסף 141
הוא 133
לאמור 131
איש 129
לי 126
שם 119
שנה 116
אברהם 114
אותו 112
ולוא 111
סויהי 110
עד 109
בן 108
בארץ 108
העם 107
http://www.eliyah.com/cgi-bin/strongs.c ... index=3559
Additionally, a mechanical translation, or word-by-word translation of the bible is also online, here:
http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/mt/translation1.html
Translate.google.com has every hebrew word from the bible, but many words translate differently. It might not be fully reliable.
More Info on Strong's concordance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong%27s_Concordance
*****
I count 40k words in exodus and genesis. 8500 Distinct words. Most frequent words are:
item Count
את 1293
אל 653
אשר 608
יהוה 479
על 479
כי 421
ואת 368
כל 344
סויואמר 336
לוא 283
מושה 268
בני 233
יסראל 202
לו 196
מיצריים 188
אלוהים 187
פרעוה 179
הארץ 169
ויואמר 167
יעקוב 147
יוסף 141
הוא 133
לאמור 131
איש 129
לי 126
שם 119
שנה 116
אברהם 114
אותו 112
ולוא 111
סויהי 110
עד 109
בן 108
בארץ 108
העם 107