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Re: Biblical Hebrew vocabulary

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:27 pm
by dirkroorda
Dear Karl,
I consider the Masoretic text as data: results of the work of certain scribes around 900 AD.
It is a curious combination of materials with vast temporal distances between their origins. And the most fascinating is that the vowels are so much younger than the consonants.
I am not a Hebrew scholar myself, although I have spent a full year reading 50 chapters in 1&2 Samuel, with a Gesenius, a grammar, some commentaries and a computer.
So I am not "critical" towards these sources, but I appreciate that there are inconsistencies there, and at all levels in the history of these texts.
People in the Amsterdam group try to use clues in language structure and use for more precise dating of certain books and chapters, and there the database helps. For that type of research the pointing is indeed as good as irrelevant.
My role is to model all that data in ways that others can make use of it, and combine and recombine it with other relevant data.
Best,
Dirk Roorda

Re: Biblical Hebrew vocabulary

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:27 am
by kwrandolph
dirkroorda wrote:I am not a Hebrew scholar myself, … My role is to model all that data in ways that others can make use of it, and combine and recombine it with other relevant data.
Best,
Dirk Roorda


Thank you for clarifying your role.

I was asking questions of you that are properly answered by the “others” for whom you prepare your models.

All the best, Karl W. Randolph.

Re: Biblical Hebrew vocabulary

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:15 pm
by Jason Hare
If anyone is interested, Mechon Mamre has an online version of the traditional Hebrew text without vowels:

http://mechon-mamre.org/i/t/x/x0.htm

They also have a תיקון קוראים that places the Masoretic vowels and tone marks on the word when you move your mouse over it. This is available for the Torah and the book of Esther:

https://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/cp/cp0.htm