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Re: Etymology of Hebrew "de"

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:00 pm
by ducky
It is on page 309, the second line.

Re: Etymology of Hebrew "de"

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:37 am
by Jason Hare
ducky wrote:It is on page 309, the second line.
I was hoping that they'd give us a breakdown of דהיינו rather than just listing היינו ד־ without any definition. It's clear that it doesn't mean הָיִ֫ינוּ ד־ "we were which...". I'm wondering what the Aramaic means.

Re: Etymology of Hebrew "de"

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:22 am
by ducky
Sorry, I didn't notice that.

I guess this line does refer to הַיְנוּ ד

I uploaded this entry since the first post, even though it focused on two cases, It was actually talked about the meaning of the ד in general - so I guessed that will help.

Anyway, I think that דהיינו just means "which is"
היינו means "this/that is"
and ד means "Which"

So by that, it is like "which this is" and used in the sentence in the way that says: "In other words".

Re: Etymology of Hebrew "de"

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:54 pm
by Jason Hare
So, could היינו in Aramaic be something similar to הִנְנוּ\הִנֵּ֫נוּ or הִנּוֹ (that is, הִנֵּה הוּא)? I wish I could easily search for the phrase in Aramaic. I mean, I know what it means, but I don't know what it's composed of. LOL

Re: Etymology of Hebrew "de"

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:40 pm
by Jemoh66
I haven’t studied Aramaic, but if I had to make an educated guess I would say this is a causative form in the 3MP of HAWAH, be

Re: Etymology of Hebrew "de"

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:57 pm
by Jemoh66
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Correction. Not the causative but the doubled stem.

Re: Etymology of Hebrew "de"

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:50 pm
by Jason Hare
Ah, we have this on the Academy's page. It seems that the roots are unclear, but at least its meaning is clear. :)

Re: Etymology of Hebrew "de"

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:27 pm
by David Brostoff
Thanks to all for their comments, which are helpful to me.

David Brostoff