Question on the name Samuel from 1 Sam 1:20

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Glenn Dean
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Question on the name Samuel from 1 Sam 1:20

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Hi:

I can't quite figure out how the name Samuel is formed in 1 Sam 1:20. Here's the part of the verse:
וַתִּקְרָ֤א אֶת־שְׁמוֹ֙ שְׁמוּאֵ֔ל כִּ֥י מֵיְהוָ֖ה שְׁאִלְתִּֽיו
it says "and she called his name Samuel because from the Lord I asked for him"

I can see the last word in the verse has the letters שׁאל (which is almost Samuel except it's missing מוּ

If I "break down Samuel" it almost looks like "his name God".

But Hannah says specifically that she called him Samuel because "from the Lord I asked for him" (so how does that "equal" Samuel??

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BDB breaks it down as you have: "his name is El."
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Re: Question on the name Samuel from 1 Sam 1:20

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thanxs Jason for that link!

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Jason writes
BDB breaks it down as you have: "his name is El."
whose name is El?

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Isaac Fried wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:25 pm Jason writes
BDB breaks it down as you have: "his name is El."
whose name is El?

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Wouldn't it be God's name?
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Re: Question on the name Samuel from 1 Sam 1:20

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humm... couldn't be אלקנה ???? humm....

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Seems to me that אל is God. It is not a name. Also, the boy's name is shmUel not shmOel. It does not make sense to me that שמואל is: his-name-is-el. Something else, another theophoric message, must be hidden in the name, still referring to El.


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It’s a conflation of the phrase sha’ul me-el.
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Jemoh66 wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:48 pm It’s a conflation of the phrase sha’ul me-el.
What do Shmuel and Shaul have to do with one another? Shmuel was a prophet before Shaul became a king. I don't see the connection.
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Re: Question on the name Samuel from 1 Sam 1:20

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The "conflation" of the phrase sha’ul me-el has the letter L twice reminding us of the similar name שְׁלֻמִיאֵל בֶּן צוּרִישַׁדָּי of Nu. 1:6, apparently related to the names שְׁלֹמֹה of 2Sam. 12:24 and שַׁלּוּם of 1Ch. 2:41.

I have already commented in this forum on such names here
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1077&hilit=%D7%A9% ... 6%B5%D7%9C

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