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Matthew Longhorn
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Pratico and Van Pelt videos

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Hi all, I have the video lectures of the second edition of Pratico and Van Pelt's grammar. Does anyone know if there is any worth in buying the latest release? If it isn't much different then I can't see the point in forking out the money for it!
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Didn't want your post to go unanswered, but I don't have anything constructive to contribute. I never used those videos. I imagine that if you have the second edition, you wouldn't be justified in putting the money out for any later edition. Have you watched them and worked through the text?
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Re: Pratico and Van Pelt videos

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Thanks Jason, I have been using the lectures For the second edition and have found them helpful as I am working my way through the book. Agreed with your assessment that it probably wouldn’t be worth the extra cost, unless someone chimes in with some stunning insight.

Trying to fit Hebrew study around a full time job, studying Greek and a whole bunch of other things makes it slower going than I would like! Really enjoying it though. Reading texts however simple is always a satisfying feeling and makes me eager to keep going.
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Matthew Longhorn wrote:Reading texts however simple is always a satisfying feeling and makes me eager to keep going.
That's so much more important to your growth than watching multiple versions of their video lectures. Take the Bible and read passages that have meaning to you. As early as you can, get into the Ten Commandments. Get into Genesis 1. Get into the text and commit it to heart. That's where Hebrew will become alive to you — and Hebrew is much easier than Greek once you're past the beginning stage.
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Re: Pratico and Van Pelt videos

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Matthew Longhorn wrote:Hi all, I have the video lectures of the second edition of Pratico and Van Pelt's grammar. Does anyone know if there is any worth in buying the latest release? If it isn't much different then I can't see the point in forking out the money for it!
I haven't seen his video lectures but I have his books.

people buy houses and hesitating over that is understandable.. In the case of books I wouldn't call it forking out money.. can't comment on videos as haven't seen much re them and I absorb technical info much better from books .

van pelt's material is very organised.. he doesn't put out books for no good reason..

I recall reading his BBH book and thinking "damn it'd be really useful if there was a book that explained just enough english grammar as pertains to biblical hebrew.. so that the terminology is clearer. I googled and and lo and behold he'd written that book too! "English Grammar to Ace Biblical Hebrew" by Miles V. Van Pelt

you could just get the books.
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Re: Pratico and Van Pelt videos

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Hey Ralph, thanks for the reply

I completely agree with your thoughts re books. Most of the books I buy (on Greek) unfortunately cost £70+ these days and I recently spent £153 on a commentary on the Septuagint text of Exodus. Definitely not averse to paying money if the material is good and will benefit me.

I actually have his books, both the second edition and the latest one. Also his second edition lectures. That said, the videos, if I recall correctly would be £70+. If no substantial change from the old set then I can’t see the point in spending it as I can just use the books. It is nice to have a mix of learning styles, I sometimes listen to the lectures while trying to fall asleep.

The debate isn’t whether to spend money on studying languages - it is a debate over whether I would get more value upgrading the lectures or spending it on another book ;-)
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oh I wouldn't especially for videos.. The only time i've bought a new edition of a book when having an earlier edition, was in a classroom situation when I wanted the same edition as the teacher and most of the class.
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Sometimes they can be useful. Mounce did a heavy update on verbal aspect and middle voice which was well needed on his grammar. So taking in new linguistic insights can be worth an upgrade on at least one format
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Maybe drop them an email and ask what the updates are.
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