Weingreen Grammar, Composition 32.6
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Weingreen Grammar, Composition 32.6
Well, moving forward...
Thou (pronoun) hast created the heavens and the earth and the seas and all that is in them.
Notice that the word “thou” (that is, m.s. “you”) is in italics for emphasis. The personal pronoun should be explicit.Jason Hare
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Re: Weingreen Grammar, Composition 32.6
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By the way, וכו׳ is an abbreviation for וְכוּלֵי, which is how we say et cetera (etc. or &c.) in Hebrew.
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Re: Weingreen Grammar, Composition 32.6
Here is mine. I also used "to create." I am uncertain on the rendering of "seas" as singular or plural.
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Re: Weingreen Grammar, Composition 32.6
Good catch on “seas” in the plural. I’ll correct that, too.
Notice, though, the difference between יַמִּים yammîm “seas” and יָמִים yāmîm “days.” The singular comes from the older monosyllabic diphthongal yawm, as we see in Arabic يَوْم, which went through monophthongization by which normally unstressed aw became ô (also, mawt → môṯ [unstressed] and → mā́weṯ [stressed]). The plural is apparently broken, with the drop of the dithphong completely.
Notice, though, the difference between יַמִּים yammîm “seas” and יָמִים yāmîm “days.” The singular comes from the older monosyllabic diphthongal yawm, as we see in Arabic يَوْم, which went through monophthongization by which normally unstressed aw became ô (also, mawt → môṯ [unstressed] and → mā́weṯ [stressed]). The plural is apparently broken, with the drop of the dithphong completely.
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Re: Weingreen Grammar, Composition 32.6
In addition to Arabic the word was loaned into Egyptian as ywm (Hieroglyphic: 𓇋𓇋𓏲𓅓). Although sometimes written without ym (𓇋𓇋𓅓).Jason Hare wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:38 pm
Notice, though, the difference between יַמִּים yammîm “seas” and יָמִים yāmîm “days.” The singular comes from the older monosyllabic diphthongal yawm, as we see in Arabic يَوْم, which went through monophthongization by which normally unstressed aw became ô (also, mawt → môṯ [unstressed] and → mā́weṯ [stressed]). The plural is apparently broken, with the drop of the dithphong completely.
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Brilliant. Do you have a keyboard for typing in hieroglyphs?jordan17182 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:22 am In addition to Arabic the word was loaned into Egyptian as ywm (Hieroglyphic: 𓇋𓇋𓏲𓅓). Although sometimes written without ym (𓇋𓇋𓅓).
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Re: Weingreen Grammar, Composition 32.6
Jason: your translation is exactly as I expected.
In Hebrew conversation as recorded in Tanakh, the personal pronoun is found fronting a sentence, without it being an emphatic. If you want to make it emphatic, you’ll need to add something. Do you have any idea of what to add to make it emphatic?
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In Hebrew conversation as recorded in Tanakh, the personal pronoun is found fronting a sentence, without it being an emphatic. If you want to make it emphatic, you’ll need to add something. Do you have any idea of what to add to make it emphatic?
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It is a rather involved affair but there are ways to set up the Japanese Keyboard to work for hieroglyphs. Personally, I use a program called JSesh and then copy as unicode.
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Could you provide some examples?kwrandolph wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:45 pm In Hebrew conversation as recorded in Tanakh, the personal pronoun is found fronting a sentence, without it being an emphatic.
No. What would that be?kwrandolph wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:45 pm If you want to make it emphatic, you’ll need to add something. Do you have any idea of what to add to make it emphatic?
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How many different symbols are there in hieroglyphics? Aren’t there hundreds? Thousands?jordan17182 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:53 pm It is a rather involved affair but there are ways to set up the Japanese Keyboard to work for hieroglyphs. Personally, I use a program called JSesh and then copy as unicode.
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