What is the difference between Adonai with kamatz on nun, vs patah on nun?

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What is the difference between Adonai with kamatz on nun, vs patah on nun?

Postby ralph » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:59 pm

What is the difference between Adonai with kamatz on nun, vs patah on nun?

It seems that Adonai with a patach on the nun is is a plural noun masters.. Adoni with a hirik on nun is my master..

But i've heard that Adonai with a kamatz on the nun is a completely different thing, and is a name of God.

Is that right?

I'm a bit confused over Adonai with a Kamatz

Thanks

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Re: What is the difference between Adonai with kamatz on nun, vs patah on nun?

Postby Jason Hare » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:06 pm

אֲדֹנָי = God
אֲדֹנַי = my lords (or, lord, depending on context)

Notice that the Aleppo Codex represents it as אֲדנָי (without cholam) in about 97% of the time, according to my findings.

Similarly, the name יהוה is pointed without the cholam (as יְהוָה) in the vast majority of instances in the Aleppo Codex.
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Re: What is the difference between Adonai with kamatz on nun, vs patah on nun?

Postby ralph » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:24 pm

Thanks. I am a bit clearer now. But you suggest that אֲדֹנַי can be singular. Where and Why would אֲדֹנַי be singular "my lord"? I'd have thought it'd always be my lords 'cos singular 'my lord' would be adonee.

I understand אֲדֹנָי is The Lord, but is it always YHWH?

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Re: What is the difference between Adonai with kamatz on nun, vs patah on nun?

Postby Jason Hare » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:41 am

ralph wrote:Thanks. I am a bit clearer now. But you suggest that אֲדֹנַי can be singular. Where and Why would אֲדֹנַי be singular "my lord"? I'd have thought it'd always be my lords 'cos singular 'my lord' would be adonee.

I understand אֲדֹנָי is The Lord, but is it always YHWH?

Well, I was actually thinking specifically in terms of אֲדֹנָיו used of singular reference, as in the story of Joseph with his Egyptian master (cf. the six appearances of אדניו in Genesis 39:2, 3, 7, 8, 16 and 19). If it's possible to use it with the 3ms suffix, then it's possible with the 1cs suffix. I don't have the necessary software to locate and confirm its use, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
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Re: What is the difference between Adonai with kamatz on nun, vs patah on nun?

Postby Jason Hare » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:41 am

ralph wrote:I understand אֲדֹנָי is The Lord, but is it always YHWH?

I've never seen it used otherwise.
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