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Saboi
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Angel

Postby Saboi » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:14 pm

CIRCLE is a cognate of the Phoenician גלגל gal·gal' and a WAGON is עגלה ag·a·la and cognate with Linear B a-ke-ro
and Persian mounted couriers are called ἄγγαρος (אגרא ) cognate with ἄγγελος.

קל (Kal) - swift, light, fleet

Isaiah 18:2 - Swift messenger : מלאכים קלים - ἄγγελοι κοῦφοι - מלכקרת - מלך קל - Mercurius - Hercules
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Re: Angel

Postby Saboi » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:00 pm

The only angel so-named in the Bible is GABRIEL

גבריאל

The first part of the name is גבר and a cognate of κύριος ( κύρ - κϝρ - κβρ - גבר )
also the ג drops out and ב becomes מ and becomes the Aramaic word for Lord.

Genesis 16:4 : גברתה - κυρία "lady of the house"
1 Kings 11:19 : הגבירה - ἧ κυρία

גבר (κόρος) - honorific title for boys and young men e.g. Master

Genesis 11:30 - Sarai was barren(עקר )
- עקר = ἄκουρος "childless"

κόρος
- κείρω "of one who has cut his hair short on emerging from boyhood"
- קרח "Shaven"
--φαλακρός "Bald-headed"
-הכרי "Young Mercenaries"
-ἐπίκουρος "Young Mercenaries"
-זכר "man"

The effeminate form of זכר is נקב from the root κόπτω "Cut"

κοῦρος - twigs stripped from a tree,
ἐπικόπτω - of trees (ξύλα)

ξύλα/צלע (Gen 2:22)
ξυλον/צלמ (Gen 1:27)
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Re: Angel

Postby Isaac Fried » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:31 pm

גלגל = גל-גל, namely two גלים, two mounds, one up and one down to complete a circle.
קל is a variant of גל, 'rising'.
מלכקרת = מלכ-קרת, 'the ruler מלכ of the city קרת'
קֵרֵחַ, 'shaven', has nothing to do with קֶרַח, 'ice, hail'.

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Saboi
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Re: Angel

Postby Saboi » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:48 pm

גל - Bowl
גלל - Roll
גלגל - Round

In the Gospel of Mark in 15:46 the word rolled is προσκυλίω
from the root κυλίω (גל) "Roll along".

The Hebrew word for Cylinder is גליון (gillayown) , same as κυλίνδρων (Kulindron)

קרח (qerach) same as κρύος (Kruos) "icy cold, frost" but also cognate
with the English words, "Frost, Frozen, Fridge, Glass, Jelly, Gold "

קרח גלל - κρύσταλλον

The word Anthrax came from עינ קרח (ayin qrach) "Beryl" (ἄνθρακος )
*Gen 2:12, Numbers 11:7 , Exodus 16:31, Ezekiel 1:16, Ezekiel 10:9
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Re: Angel

Postby Saboi » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:13 pm

מלאך ( Malak)
- Merx / Merchant
- Melqart, Mercurius, Hercules , Herakles
- Market

שאל ( SAL) " Lend, Request, Ask"
- ἐξαποστέλλω ( Exapostellw) " dispatch"
- καλέω (Kalew) ' call , summon'

שלח (SLH) 'Send'
-στέλλω (Stellw) 'dispatch'
-ἀποστέλλω (Apostellw) 'send off'
-Apostle, Postal

Phoenician Merchants
- Methuselah = μεταστέλλω ( Metastellah) 'to send for, summon'
- Methusael = μετακαλέω ( Metakalah) ' recall, summon'
- Enoch = ἐνεκαίνισεν ( Enekainisen) "Restore"
- Irad = χωράζω ( Xorazo) ' set-up, town'
- Mehujael = λιμήν Καλοὶ (limene Kaloi ) ' fair-havens (מָחוֹז)
- Cain/Kaanan = καινίζω 'make new' *φοίνικος
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Re: Angel

Postby Isaac Fried » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:12 pm

Does a גל, 'mound', "Roll along"?
Is a גלגל "round"? What is actually "round"?

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Re: Angel

Postby Saboi » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:29 pm

גל
- κολώνη : hill, mound, sepulchral mound, barrow"
- collis : a hill (Latin)

Mounds are circular.
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Re: Angel

Postby Isaac Fried » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:19 pm

In Jonah 2:4 we read
וַתַּשְׁלִיכֵנִי מְצוּלָה בִּלְבַב יַמִּים וְנָהָר יְסֹבְבֵנִי כָּל מִשְׁבָּרֶיךָ וְגַלֶּיךָ עָלַי עָבָרוּ
Are these גלים of the high seas also "circular".

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Saboi
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Re: Angel

Postby Saboi » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:38 pm

κυλίω, κυλίνδω (גל) - to be whirled round

Odysseus 2.163, 8.81
κυλίνδεται - toss like a ship at sea"
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Re: Angel

Postby Saboi » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:29 pm

גלים also the ancient Hebrew word for tortoise shell.

The word לבב in Jonah 2:3 is the word for "Heart" and yet describes the sea because
לבב is κόλπου.

κόλπου
Any bosom-like hollow,
Of the sea (Lliad 6:613, Odyseus 4:435)
Of the Heart (Aristotle GA530b7)

κόλπου > λπυ > לבב

The cognate is confirmed in Arabic as the K is retained in قلب (qalb)

κόλ/גל.
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