Kiriath Arba on Egyptian Execration List
Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:51 am
Kiriath Arba on Egyptian Execration List
1. Biblical Testimony (Excluding Genesis)
Joshua makes the following emphatic statement at Joshua 14: 15: “And the name of Hebron before was Kirjatharba”. On four subsequent occasions, Joshua makes statements that strongly imply the same thing (Joshua 15: 13, 54; 20: 7; 21: 11).
Judges 1:10 also makes the same emphatic statement: “…now the name of Hebron before was Kirjatharba”.
Thus the Biblical testimony is clear: the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country (which Biblically was King David’s first capital city) (i) was called Kiriath Arba prior to the Conquest, and (ii) was called “Hebron” after the Conquest.
As we will see on this thread, it turns out that verifying the historical accuracy of the foregoing statements in Joshua and Judges relies primarily on matters of west Semitic linguistics, involving both Hebrew and Canaanite, which makes this a fitting subject for the b-hebrew list.
(Incidentally, though this will not be a focus of this post, none of the above Biblical statements asserts, or necessarily implies, that King David’s first capital city of “Hebron” was one and the same place as, or located anywhere in the general vicinity of, the Patriarchs’ “Hebron”. Although one might be tempted to interject that “Gosh, they shared the same name!”, that is not in fact necessarily the case. The above Biblical testimony seems to state unequivocally that in the Patriarchal Age (which of course pre-dates the Conquest by centuries), the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country (which would, many centuries later, become King David’s first capital city) was n-o-t called “Hebron”! Moreover, even in the days of Moses (who also pre-dates the Conquest, with Moses sometimes being thought to be the author of the Patriarchal narratives, so that nomenclature in the Patriarchal narratives might therefore at times logically reflect geographical place names in use in Moses’ time, even if such geographical place names had not yet come into existence in the Patriarchal Age), that high altitude city south of Jerusalem in southern hill country still was not yet called “Hebron”. But I’m starting to get off topic, because believe it or not, I do not mean to discuss the Patriarchal narratives in this particular post.)
To repeat then, based exclusively on Biblical testimony outside of Genesis, the Books of Joshua and Judges are telling us that the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country (which Biblically was King David’s first capital city) (i) was called Kiriath Arba prior to the Conquest, and (ii) was called “Hebron” after the Conquest.
2. Non-Biblical Facts
Temporarily ignoring all Biblical testimony for a moment, here is what we know about this city and its names, based exclusively on non-biblical evidence:
(a) The name of such city prior to the 1st millennium BCE is unknown.
(b) Based on (d) below, it is a virtual certainty that the Early Bronze Age name of such city surely must appear on the older Egyptian Execration List (which dates to the end of the Early Bronze Age and will be discussed in some detail on this thread, though not in this first post), yet no one has been able to determine which of the 36 city names on that older Execration List may be the Early Bronze Age name of such city. (But we on the b-hebrew list will do that in my very next two posts on this thread. Yes!)
(c) From the 1st millennium BCE to the present, such city has been called “Hebron”.
(d) In the Early Bronze Age, such city was one of the most imposing fortifications on planet Earth (though it did not necessarily boast a particularly large population). Accordingly, from an Egyptian perspective, it would certainly deserve a place on the older Egyptian Execration List (which dates to the end of the Early Bronze Age). Indeed, of all the cities in Early Bronze Age Canaan, the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country would seem to be the strongest candidate for inclusion on the older Execration List. It’s simply got to be there! (Remember, here we are temporarily ignoring for all purposes all Biblical testimony. I am not presenting a faith-based position in my attempt to prove that Joshua and Judges are right as to this issue.)
[We must always distinguish between the following two completely different issues in trying to determine if the Bible is right or wrong, historically, as to what it says about “Hebron”. On the one hand, it is absolutely certain, based exclusively on non-biblical evidence, that the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country was a truly grand and imposing fortress throughout the Early Bronze Age, whereas it was merely a city in the Middle Bronze Age, no longer being a fortress worthy of the name, before basically disappearing in the Late Bronze Age, only to reappear again in the 1st millennium BCE. On the other hand, when critics of the Bible say that Hebron is not known to exist prior to the 1st millennium BCE, what they mean by that allegation (if the allegation is being made intelligently) is that the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country is not historically documented as having had the n-a-m-e “Hebron” prior to the 1st millennium BCE. Though such an argument may have some force in attacking the historicity of the Patriarchal narratives (of course I myself am not buying into that for a minute, needless to say!), note that such argument in no way contradicts what Joshua and Judges say above, but rather indeed merely effectively parrots precisely what Joshua and Judges explicitly say.]
(e) In the Middle Bronze Age, that high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country was still in existence, but it was now a shadow of its former glorious self. It was no longer a real fortress, but rather its citizens were living in the gradually decaying remains of what had once been a truly glorious fortified city. It was a bona fide city in the Middle Bronze Age, but was no longer a fortress worthy of the name.
(f) By the Late Bronze Age, such city for all intents and purposes no longer existed. Yes, a tiny population (essentially scavengers) now lived there among the ruins of this once grand fortress at that site. But except as to ancient memories, essentially there was no there there in the Late Bronze Age at that high altitude site 20 miles south of Jerusalem. (By the way, Jerusalem was, by contrast, a going concern during the Late Bronze Age, as we know from the Amarna Letters.)
(g) From the 1st millennium BCE to the present, the city of “Hebron” has existed at (or very near) that site.
[Though trying not to get off-topic, if the Patriarchal Age was the Early Bronze Age, which is one traditional view, there definitely was a very imposing fortress at that site during such time period. If the Patriarchal Age was the Middle Bronze Age, which is the other traditional view, there was a bona fide city there at that time, but no fortress worthy of the name (which might arguably fit the Patriarchal narratives better than the facts on the ground during the Early Bronze Age, though none of this is my own view of the timing of the Patriarchal Age, which I myself see as being the Late Bronze Age). In either such case, whether the Patriarchal Age is the Early or the Middle Bronze Age, the n-a-m-e of such fortress during those early time periods is problematic, which is the issue we are discussing on this thread. But if, on my view, the Patriarchal Age was the Late Bronze Age, then as just noted there was no there there as to any real city worthy of the name in the Late Bronze Age at that site high in southern hill country 20 miles south of Jerusalem.]
3. Finding an Equivalent of “Kiriath Arba” on the Older Egyptian Execration List
I see that I have quickly run out of space in this post, just as I was starting to get warmed up on this exciting topic. In my next two posts on this thread, we will look at the older Egyptian Execration List and see whether some version of “Kiriath Arba” is on that list. (It is!)
It is my considered opinion that the Biblical testimony of Joshua and Judges above as to this issue is more or less accurate regarding the two names, and the timing of such two names, of the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country. I say that, however, without regard to whether there was or was not a Conquest historically, or whether there was or was not a Hebrew King David historically, or whether or not any Hebrew King David (or equivalent historical figure) ever had such high altitude city as his capital city; such issues pose difficult questions historically, if all Biblical testimony is entirely ignored. But subject to such considerations (which are not very important in any event, one way or another, for the question of the names, and timing of the names, of this high altitude city, which is the narrow question being examined on this thread), I see the Biblical testimony above of Joshua and Judges as being spot-on regarding some version of the city name “Kiriath Arba” having been the name of that high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country prior to the time period of any Conquest (if there was one), with such city thereafter being called “Hebron” (and being King David’s first capital city, if there was a King David historically, and if he historically had such city as his first capital city).
We on the b-hebrew list will be the first ones to identify which city name on the older Egyptian Execration List is but a variant of the city name “Kiriath Arba”. Is that exciting or what?
Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois
1. Biblical Testimony (Excluding Genesis)
Joshua makes the following emphatic statement at Joshua 14: 15: “And the name of Hebron before was Kirjatharba”. On four subsequent occasions, Joshua makes statements that strongly imply the same thing (Joshua 15: 13, 54; 20: 7; 21: 11).
Judges 1:10 also makes the same emphatic statement: “…now the name of Hebron before was Kirjatharba”.
Thus the Biblical testimony is clear: the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country (which Biblically was King David’s first capital city) (i) was called Kiriath Arba prior to the Conquest, and (ii) was called “Hebron” after the Conquest.
As we will see on this thread, it turns out that verifying the historical accuracy of the foregoing statements in Joshua and Judges relies primarily on matters of west Semitic linguistics, involving both Hebrew and Canaanite, which makes this a fitting subject for the b-hebrew list.
(Incidentally, though this will not be a focus of this post, none of the above Biblical statements asserts, or necessarily implies, that King David’s first capital city of “Hebron” was one and the same place as, or located anywhere in the general vicinity of, the Patriarchs’ “Hebron”. Although one might be tempted to interject that “Gosh, they shared the same name!”, that is not in fact necessarily the case. The above Biblical testimony seems to state unequivocally that in the Patriarchal Age (which of course pre-dates the Conquest by centuries), the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country (which would, many centuries later, become King David’s first capital city) was n-o-t called “Hebron”! Moreover, even in the days of Moses (who also pre-dates the Conquest, with Moses sometimes being thought to be the author of the Patriarchal narratives, so that nomenclature in the Patriarchal narratives might therefore at times logically reflect geographical place names in use in Moses’ time, even if such geographical place names had not yet come into existence in the Patriarchal Age), that high altitude city south of Jerusalem in southern hill country still was not yet called “Hebron”. But I’m starting to get off topic, because believe it or not, I do not mean to discuss the Patriarchal narratives in this particular post.)
To repeat then, based exclusively on Biblical testimony outside of Genesis, the Books of Joshua and Judges are telling us that the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country (which Biblically was King David’s first capital city) (i) was called Kiriath Arba prior to the Conquest, and (ii) was called “Hebron” after the Conquest.
2. Non-Biblical Facts
Temporarily ignoring all Biblical testimony for a moment, here is what we know about this city and its names, based exclusively on non-biblical evidence:
(a) The name of such city prior to the 1st millennium BCE is unknown.
(b) Based on (d) below, it is a virtual certainty that the Early Bronze Age name of such city surely must appear on the older Egyptian Execration List (which dates to the end of the Early Bronze Age and will be discussed in some detail on this thread, though not in this first post), yet no one has been able to determine which of the 36 city names on that older Execration List may be the Early Bronze Age name of such city. (But we on the b-hebrew list will do that in my very next two posts on this thread. Yes!)
(c) From the 1st millennium BCE to the present, such city has been called “Hebron”.
(d) In the Early Bronze Age, such city was one of the most imposing fortifications on planet Earth (though it did not necessarily boast a particularly large population). Accordingly, from an Egyptian perspective, it would certainly deserve a place on the older Egyptian Execration List (which dates to the end of the Early Bronze Age). Indeed, of all the cities in Early Bronze Age Canaan, the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country would seem to be the strongest candidate for inclusion on the older Execration List. It’s simply got to be there! (Remember, here we are temporarily ignoring for all purposes all Biblical testimony. I am not presenting a faith-based position in my attempt to prove that Joshua and Judges are right as to this issue.)
[We must always distinguish between the following two completely different issues in trying to determine if the Bible is right or wrong, historically, as to what it says about “Hebron”. On the one hand, it is absolutely certain, based exclusively on non-biblical evidence, that the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country was a truly grand and imposing fortress throughout the Early Bronze Age, whereas it was merely a city in the Middle Bronze Age, no longer being a fortress worthy of the name, before basically disappearing in the Late Bronze Age, only to reappear again in the 1st millennium BCE. On the other hand, when critics of the Bible say that Hebron is not known to exist prior to the 1st millennium BCE, what they mean by that allegation (if the allegation is being made intelligently) is that the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country is not historically documented as having had the n-a-m-e “Hebron” prior to the 1st millennium BCE. Though such an argument may have some force in attacking the historicity of the Patriarchal narratives (of course I myself am not buying into that for a minute, needless to say!), note that such argument in no way contradicts what Joshua and Judges say above, but rather indeed merely effectively parrots precisely what Joshua and Judges explicitly say.]
(e) In the Middle Bronze Age, that high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country was still in existence, but it was now a shadow of its former glorious self. It was no longer a real fortress, but rather its citizens were living in the gradually decaying remains of what had once been a truly glorious fortified city. It was a bona fide city in the Middle Bronze Age, but was no longer a fortress worthy of the name.
(f) By the Late Bronze Age, such city for all intents and purposes no longer existed. Yes, a tiny population (essentially scavengers) now lived there among the ruins of this once grand fortress at that site. But except as to ancient memories, essentially there was no there there in the Late Bronze Age at that high altitude site 20 miles south of Jerusalem. (By the way, Jerusalem was, by contrast, a going concern during the Late Bronze Age, as we know from the Amarna Letters.)
(g) From the 1st millennium BCE to the present, the city of “Hebron” has existed at (or very near) that site.
[Though trying not to get off-topic, if the Patriarchal Age was the Early Bronze Age, which is one traditional view, there definitely was a very imposing fortress at that site during such time period. If the Patriarchal Age was the Middle Bronze Age, which is the other traditional view, there was a bona fide city there at that time, but no fortress worthy of the name (which might arguably fit the Patriarchal narratives better than the facts on the ground during the Early Bronze Age, though none of this is my own view of the timing of the Patriarchal Age, which I myself see as being the Late Bronze Age). In either such case, whether the Patriarchal Age is the Early or the Middle Bronze Age, the n-a-m-e of such fortress during those early time periods is problematic, which is the issue we are discussing on this thread. But if, on my view, the Patriarchal Age was the Late Bronze Age, then as just noted there was no there there as to any real city worthy of the name in the Late Bronze Age at that site high in southern hill country 20 miles south of Jerusalem.]
3. Finding an Equivalent of “Kiriath Arba” on the Older Egyptian Execration List
I see that I have quickly run out of space in this post, just as I was starting to get warmed up on this exciting topic. In my next two posts on this thread, we will look at the older Egyptian Execration List and see whether some version of “Kiriath Arba” is on that list. (It is!)
It is my considered opinion that the Biblical testimony of Joshua and Judges above as to this issue is more or less accurate regarding the two names, and the timing of such two names, of the high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country. I say that, however, without regard to whether there was or was not a Conquest historically, or whether there was or was not a Hebrew King David historically, or whether or not any Hebrew King David (or equivalent historical figure) ever had such high altitude city as his capital city; such issues pose difficult questions historically, if all Biblical testimony is entirely ignored. But subject to such considerations (which are not very important in any event, one way or another, for the question of the names, and timing of the names, of this high altitude city, which is the narrow question being examined on this thread), I see the Biblical testimony above of Joshua and Judges as being spot-on regarding some version of the city name “Kiriath Arba” having been the name of that high-altitude city located 20 miles south of Jerusalem in the heart of southern hill country prior to the time period of any Conquest (if there was one), with such city thereafter being called “Hebron” (and being King David’s first capital city, if there was a King David historically, and if he historically had such city as his first capital city).
We on the b-hebrew list will be the first ones to identify which city name on the older Egyptian Execration List is but a variant of the city name “Kiriath Arba”. Is that exciting or what?
Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois