What does (ננ) mean?

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What does (ננ) mean?

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Sometimes I see a (ננ) in some definitions in Accordance when I hover over a word. For example: (This did not paste in the same order as it is in the instant details box, but close enough.)
עַתָּ֗ה (ננ) עַתָּה Particle adverb now

In other occassions I have seen a double lamed. I cannot find anywhere to explain to me what these refer to. Thanks!
Edit: In this occasion I was on Ruth 3:2. ( וְעַתָּ֗ה הֲלֹ֥א בֹ֨עַז֙ מֹֽדַעְתָּ֔נוּ אֲשֶׁ֥ר הָיִ֖ית אֶת־נַעֲרוֹתָ֑יו הִנֵּה־ה֗וּא זֹרֶ֛ה אֶת־גֹּ֥רֶן הַשְּׂעֹרִ֖ים הַלָּֽיְלָה )
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Re: What does (ננ) mean?

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Mike Atnip wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:21 pm Sometimes I see a (ננ) in some definitions in Accordance when I hover over a word. For example: (This did not paste in the same order as it is in the instant details box, but close enough.)
עַתָּ֗ה (ננ) עַתָּה Particle adverb now

In other occassions I have seen a double lamed. I cannot find anywhere to explain to me what these refer to. Thanks!
Edit: In this occasion I was on Ruth 3:2. ( וְעַתָּ֗ה הֲלֹ֥א בֹ֨עַז֙ מֹֽדַעְתָּ֔נוּ אֲשֶׁ֥ר הָיִ֖ית אֶת־נַעֲרוֹתָ֑יו הִנֵּה־ה֗וּא זֹרֶ֛ה אֶת־גֹּ֥רֶן הַשְּׂעֹרִ֖ים הַלָּֽיְלָה )
Hi Mike, I do not know if I can help, but maybe, I would need to know firstly what site are you looking at? What do you mean by "Accordance ".
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Re: What does (ננ) mean?

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Accordance is one of the popular Bible softwares. www.accordancebible.com/
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Re: What does (ננ) mean?

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I don’t have Accordance (I’m a Logos user), but I would imagine that it’s just a sort of placeholder that doesn’t represent any meaning. Could you take a screenshot to show what it looks like?
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Re: What does (ננ) mean?

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Jason Hare wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:15 pm I don’t have Accordance (I’m a Logos user), but I would imagine that it’s just a sort of placeholder that doesn’t represent any meaning. Could you take a screenshot to show what it looks like?
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Re: What does (ננ) mean?

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Here is a vocabulary list for Ruth that I pulled using the Accordance software. You will find some words with nun-nun and a few with lamed-lamed. I have not figured out what they represent but maybe someone more experienced with the language can.
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Someone advised me today that the parentheses normally contain the root of the word in question, and here it is just basically filler. Does that seem reasonable?
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Re: What does (ננ) mean?

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Well, I wondered about that. If the word has an unknown root then it gets a filler. I thought yesterday that the proper place to ask the question would be on the Accordance board. I had assumed it was a grammatical thing, but maybe it is just a softwhere thing specific to Accordance. I am going to post over there and see what they say. Thanks.
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Well, well. Accordance says nun-nun stands for "not known" root and lamed-lamed stands for "loaned lexeme". :-)
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I had intended to get back to you on this question. On the Nerdy Biblical Languages Majors (NBLM) group on Facebook, some Accordance users responded that ננ means “not known,” but I just adopted two kittens at the beginning of the week who are occupying all of my free time at the moment. I’m glad you found your answer! Where did it appear in Accordance?
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